Brian.. Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Thanks Mtrsomar, and welcome to the Drome. The information is much appreciated. I guess the one question I'd like to see answered is how many were found? Once we know that we can put a realistic value on them. At the moment it's a lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 mtrsomar do you have any infomation about a possible Portoguese Pyrotomic pistol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Thanks Mtrsomar, and welcome to the Drome. The information is much appreciated. I guess the one question I'd like to see answered is how many were found? Once we know that we can put a realistic value on them. At the moment it's a lottery. According to information from one of the sellers about 20 boxes were found, some guns were broken or damaged.There were 3 sellers with access to this warehouse and sold them in Portugal is currently only one that still has some to sell. Other toys were found but all of them had any brand from some experts the factory was Hercules but also some say it may have been manufactured by Ribeirinho. Briefly i post a photo of one of the boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 mtrsomar do you have any infomation about a possible Portoguese Pyrotomic pistol? I think the pistol does not exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Honestly, in my humble opinion, with so many of these suddenly flooding the market, I would not be surprised if they were fakes. I think this would not be possible, especially for the variety of existing color and the look of the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So the estimate is about 100-120 pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So the estimate is about 100-120 pieces? Yes approx. some of them are broken or damaged (on next step in ebay you go find this samples) and also some are in Portuguese collectors hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Ok thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portuguesetoys Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In February this year, posted a machine gun like these in the facebook group O Bazar do "O brinquedo de colecção". At the time none of the group members showed interest and did not even know them. I am a collector and I have some of these guns still in boxes, which has no marking or indication of the manufacturer. I still have a few other items from the same manufacturer (unknown), because the boxes are exactly alike as the plastic, but it has nothing to do with guns. I think the manufacturer is not Hercules, as has been said, because the boxes of toys marked Hercules came and they did not. The guns come in boxes of 6 and mostly have orange base, but there is a wide variety of colors. I can guarantee that they are unique, because they are already in the family for about 30 years at least. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=557195410971217&set=o.351127144926002&type=3&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian.. Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Welcome, Maria (Portugesetoys). That link doesn't work for me. Sadly I'm not part of the Facebook generation. The contacts we've made with Portuguese colletors will. I hope, prove very informative in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 One of the boxes, nothing especial and to small for 6 rifles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian.. Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks, Mtrsomar, much appreciated. I see that the Ebay price has dropped from $1500 to $49 in just two weeks. Unbelievable. And I suspect we've not yet seen the bottom of this market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 $49? Are you sure Brian? The lower price I found is 99$. EDIT: ok I saw the 49$ auction! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian.. Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Item 281230011319 for those who missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrsomar Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 This week i have see more 3 dif. colors combination, exist at least 20 orange/black orange/blue orange/green orange/ light green orange/yellow neon blue/red blue/yellow blue/orange black/yellow neon black/orange black/blue black/light blue black/green black/light green red/yellow neon red/green red/blue Light green/orange Light green/blue Light green / red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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